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What's the Difference Between Corn Syrup and Sugar?

Seeded on Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:54 PM EDT
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The unpopularity and fear of high-fructose corn syrup have led the Corn Refiners Association to ask the federal government's permission to drop "high-fructose" and change the syrup's name to "corn sugar."

The hope is that a name change and image makeover will help to dispel consumers' unease over buying products containing high-fructose corn syrup, also known as HFCS, as a sugar substitute, according to the association.

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Corn Sugar - what a crock of unhealthy ingredients

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:09 PM EDT
Fearless Leader-2158343

It's a crock of butt sugar.

    #1.1 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:45 AM EDT
    jiub

    Tasty.

      #1.2 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:17 AM EDT
      Rhazes

      All I hear.

      " Let us change the name so we can trick the ignorant into buying our poison"

      • 4 votes
      #1.3 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:34 AM EDT
      jiub

      @Rhazes That's exactly what my initial thought was. Americans are often viewed as ignorant when it comes to topics such as this and therefore labels are often "dumbed down" for the masses. It's really just a lack of research.

      Most of society is looking for what's easy and convenient and often take what is being presented at face value rather than doing a little bit of research before they try. Same thing goes with shopping, shop around instead of just accepting the impression you're getting a "great deal".

      • 2 votes
      #1.4 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:23 AM EDT
      cookin mama

      rhazes so agree with you. we americans will believe anything corporate america tells us. we have our heads buried.

        #1.5 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:14 AM EDT
        Auteur 1536

        I hear stevia's better than sugar. It's sweet like sugar but it's good for your digestive system and it's suitable for people who are diabetic or trying to watch their blood sugar.

        • 3 votes
        #1.6 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:02 PM EDT
        Matti Viikate

        Peoples should just check things out, then decide whether to use that product or not. It is not good thing, if there is a need of chancing the name of product. The right way of doing things, is to find these things out.

        • 1 vote
        #1.7 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:56 PM EDT
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        Desertzonie

        While researchers have determined that excessive consumption of HFCS may contribute to obesity and diabetes, the same can be said of regular sugar.

        There isn't enough evidence to say that HFCS is less safe to eat than table sugar, according to the American Medical Association, which has stated that HFSC does not appear to be more harmful than other caloric sweeteners.

        But there sure seems to be a lot of propaganda against it, I wonder who is financing that?

        • 4 votes
        Reply#2 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:28 PM EDT
        HonestNM

        What we are missing is(or not being told) is the genetically modified nature of HFCS, while cane sugar is still non-genetically modified.

        If you feel up to a good conspiracy, just research the health effects of GMO's and the cover up of anyone researching them.

        • 4 votes
        #2.1 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:54 PM EDT
        cookin mama

        i try to buy non gmo foods but it is hard.

        • 2 votes
        #2.2 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:56 PM EDT
        Sebbydad

        the issue is that this is a heavily subsidized industry. Corn subsidies are not just for ethanol. Without the subsidy HFCS would be more expensive than cane sugar or sugar beets. If hemp were legal it would provide a different cash crop for US farmers so they could get out of the corn cycle.

        • 4 votes
        #2.3 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:49 AM EDT
        Rhazes

        Sebby don't worry half of those "farms" are owned by politicians. They will do what ever it takes to make sure their "farm' still gets them subsidies.

        • 1 vote
        #2.4 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:36 AM EDT
        Socrates1

        The question is, how much does one have to consume of each to be considered "excessive"? For example, does it take more of one than the other to have the same sweetening effect? Does one pack a larger punch than the other...ie. concentrated? In absorbing each does one sit in the stomach longer than the other?

        • 2 votes
        #2.5 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:56 AM EDT
        cookin mama

        corn syrup and hfcs is in everything we eat.

        • 1 vote
        #2.6 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:16 AM EDT
        bmx mom-902413

        Cookin mama you are so right. HFCS is added to sooo many processed foods today that it would be tough if you eat alot of processed foods to not get too much. I looked at the label for a bottle of bar-b-que sauce that I used to buy before I was enlightened and the first ingredient listed was HFCS. That means that was the main ingredient.

        • 1 vote
        #2.7 - Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:38 AM EDT
        cookin mama

        yep that is why i make my own and from organic ketchup as the major labels all have hfcs in it. it is in our soups, breads, cereals snacks granola bars, you name it's in there. the less we buy of that crap they make the more they will want to change it as they dont want to see profits float away.

          #2.8 - Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:57 AM EDT
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          Merle T Wiler

          In my unprofessional opinion sugar is sugar no matter how you ingest it whether it be cane sugar, corn syrup and even the health food fanatic's favorite, honey. The alternative, artificial sweeteners such as found in diet soda are even worse. If you feel you need to eat sugar so be it but I see no real nutritional need for people to eat added sweeteners to their food.

          • 7 votes
          Reply#3 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:29 PM EDT
          Solidarity Nite

          thats rite.. its pretty much the same thing. dont eat too much of any thing is the bottom line

          • 2 votes
          #3.1 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:59 PM EDT
          cookin mama

          it is not the same thing . when i quit eating stuff with corn syrup felt better lost weight. then i tried it again and it gave me horrible ravings for junk food and fatty food and super sweet food and i put weight back on.

          • 2 votes
          #3.2 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:02 AM EDT
          Solidarity Nite

          corn syrup is basically sugar with a bit more fructose.. theres no huge diff. I think its normal to crave more sweet foods when you eat sweet foods. its the way our bodies are wired. we're programed to survive in a world of plenty

          • 3 votes
          #3.3 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:08 AM EDT
          Merle T Wiler

          My solution is to not eat either one of them....

          • 2 votes
          #3.4 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:11 AM EDT
          Solidarity Nite

          that would be a good suggestion if it wasn't all most impossible :)

          • 3 votes
          #3.5 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:18 AM EDT
          Merle T Wiler

          Actually Solidarity it is not all that hard to do. Speaking only for myself I am not one of those "on the go people" who grab an instant or microwave meal because they are too busy networking on 7 different cell phones and Blackberries 24/7. I generally avoid all processed foods not because I am a health food nut but because I like the taste of real food that I cook myself.

          • 2 votes
          #3.6 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:37 AM EDT
          Solidarity Nite

          even if you make your own pasta sauce if you make it like I do because the store stuff tastes like crap there's a spoon full of sugar in it. sugar isnt bad. its only bad if you eat too much of it. and every time you eat fruit you eat fructose. so its pretty unavoidable even if you eat healthy.

          • 3 votes
          #3.7 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:43 AM EDT
          Merle T Wiler

          I was speaking of added sweeteners but that's OK:)

          • 1 vote
          #3.8 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:46 AM EDT
          jiub

          @cookin mama When you eat sugar your body things its about to get a bunch of nutrients so it's starts burning calories in anticipation of those incoming nutrients/calories but sugary foods contain [empty] calories. Your body starts to crave what it didn't get, and if you continue to eat sugary foods it's just an ugly cycle. Your body will put on weight, you'll feel tired from sugar highs/crashes, etc.

          P.S. - Love the sn. ;) Great game!

          • 1 vote
          #3.9 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:21 AM EDT
          cookin mama

          jiub

          P.S. - Love the sn. ;) Great game! I must not have had coffee yet I do not get it?

            #3.10 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:24 AM EDT
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            cookin mama

            still wont buy that crap it makes you fat.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#4 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:38 PM EDT
            ERich-356044

            What's the difference?

            Heart disease, clogged artieries... (corn syrup will do that to you quicker than sugar!)

            • 1 vote
            Reply#5 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:47 PM EDT
            cookin mama

            those new ads they have out make sick and angry with all of the lies.

            • 2 votes
            #5.1 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:50 PM EDT
            ERich-356044

            Absolutely!!! The poster in 2.1 said it perfectly.... corn syrup is geneticly modified, and sugar isn't.

            My hubby is big on healthy stuff, and corn syrup is up there with MSG, ... totally bad for you.

            • 5 votes
            #5.2 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:06 AM EDT
            cookin mama

            erich good for you and hubby.

            • 1 vote
            #5.3 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:10 AM EDT
            Lisafrequency

            Corn is one of the most common food alergerns more people hae problems with corn than any other food. Add the fact that almost all corn and corn products are GMO that were basically untested for safety in humans before saturating the food supply with it.

            Check the stats on diabetes for the past 10 years and ask yourself if this over saturation of putting HFCS in so many foods has something to do with it. Also know that independent labs have started testing the effects of GMO corn on lab animals and their findings are alarming with major organ failure and second generation sterility and shortened life span so if these findings do not bother you then go ahead and eat the stuff. If it does bother you then use the power of your dollar and purchase something safer. Don't believe the commercials saying HFCS is just like sugar it is not but they are starting to grow GMO sugar beets too so watch out. If you eat a balanced diet you wont need sugar. Your body makes it's own DNA brand of sugar from breaking down complex carbohydrates it is very dangerous to eat refined sugars. It is a grave mistake to believe other wise.

            • 5 votes
            #5.4 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:42 AM EDT
            cookin mama

            Lisa another one who does not buy into the lies of those ads.

            • 2 votes
            #5.5 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:25 AM EDT
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            Angry Left-532262

            Has anyone else seen the movie "King Corn"?

            It's pretty interesting. Try to find a recipe for corn syrup.

            The farmer won't even eat the corn he grows. Evidently it is inedible, being a strain destined to be made into corn syrup.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#6 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:51 PM EDT
            cookin mama

            need a recipe for pecan pie that does not use the stuff.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#7 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:53 PM EDT
            Rich-365548

            I like using molasses. Sweet and flavorful too. I'll dig up my recipe and e-mail it to you.

            • 1 vote
            #7.1 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:36 AM EDT
            cookin mama

            thanks i like it but do not want to make with corn syrup.

              #7.2 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:26 AM EDT
              Rich-365548

              molasses is not corn syrup. It is made from real sugar.

                #7.3 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:43 PM EDT
                cookin mama

                rich sorry i meant i like pecan pie but do not want to make with corn syrup. i like molasses.

                  #7.4 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:18 PM EDT
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                  cookin mama

                  no i haven't.

                    Reply#8 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:54 PM EDT
                    Dennis270

                    What's the Difference Between Corn Syrup and Sugar?

                    Besides a talented PR department in sugar's corner?

                    Sugar (sucrose) is a disaccharide. HFCS is comprise of two monosaccharides, glucose and fructose. When the body digests sucrose, guess what it breaks down into? Two monosaccharides called glucose and fructose.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#9 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:08 AM EDT
                    Socrates1

                    There are many "foods" that break down to similar enzymes, etc., but eating a Twinkie is not the same thing as eating an apple, both of which contain sugar.

                    • 3 votes
                    #9.1 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:38 AM EDT
                    Dennis270

                    And you think that's attributed solely to the difference in types of sugar, not the laundry list of other things that goes into a Twinkie, which will alter the body's ability to process? I'm not saying there is no difference whatsoever, but I don't believe it is nearly the drastic difference recent reports try to make it seem. The studies seem to leave out the point that most products that contain HFCS also contain several other chemical additives and artificial products that, in my opinion, are far more likely to be the true culprits.

                    • 4 votes
                    #9.2 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:51 AM EDT
                    Socrates1

                    Old Coke...New Coke..."nuff said...:)

                      #9.3 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:43 AM EDT
                      Dennis270

                      Old Coke/New Coke doesn't enter into it. "Old Coke" had switched to a 50/50 mix of sugar and HFCS by 1980 (New Coke released in '85) and to 100% HFCS by 6 months prior to the release of "New" Coke. Coke drinkers were drinking 100% HFCS sweetened soda before the infamous switch ever ocurred, and continued to drink HFCS sweetened soda after they went back to the old formula. The drastic taste difference in the 2 was caused by a complete reformulation, not a switch in sweeteners (although the taste difference is noticeable, as evidenced with Pepsi's recent "Throwback" line)

                      • 2 votes
                      #9.4 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:59 AM EDT
                      Socrates1

                      I knew I would be misunderstood, and I apologize. I didn't mean the branding, I meant old time Coke with sugar vs new time Coke with corn. Have a Coke overseas in one of the numerous locations that still use sugar..mm mmm good. :) Actually I don't drink much soda anymore, but the sugar Coke definitely had a different taste profile. As an aside, I prefer my drinks in glass containers. When the taste profile changes to reflect the container I can only assume I'm ingesting some of the container.

                        #9.5 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:02 AM EDT
                        cookin mama

                        socrates i know what you mean.. i have not had cheap candy bars in 2 years because they have hfcs and or corn syrup in them. And yuck cant believe i used to eat that crap.

                          #9.6 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:29 AM EDT
                          Dennis270

                          I'm too young to remember when the big name soda producers used sugar as a standard. By the time I was old enough to be drinking soda, Pepsi and Coke had both already made the switch. There is a taste difference, I agree, but a difference in taste does not automatically translate to drastic differences in nutritional value or health dangers. Both sugar (if not in its raw form) and HFCS undergo chemical additives and artifical processing before they're added. I truly do not believe one is all that worse than the other.

                          • 2 votes
                          #9.7 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:41 AM EDT
                          Socrates1

                          As I mentioned earlier, I rarely attempt to defend a position without a full set of facts at my disposal and thus I cannot state definitively that my theory is correct. That being said, I remain convinced that caution regarding HFCS is in order.

                          • 1 vote
                          #9.8 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:03 PM EDT
                          Dennis270

                          Yeah, mine is pretty much just personal opinion based on limited knowledge, as well.

                          • 2 votes
                          #9.9 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:09 PM EDT
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                          steven-791492

                          As I understand it they both break down into the exact same thing....

                          Cane sugar does not grow on cane.... major process to turn it into the white stuff on our cereal.

                          A calorie is a calorie is a calorie....

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#10 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:38 AM EDT
                          cookin mama

                          sugar is made from sugar cane or sugar beets. sugar does grow on cane it is a liquid squeezed out then turned into various sugar products.

                            #10.1 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:32 AM EDT
                            Dennis270

                            Yes, granulated sugar is made from cane and sugar beets, but in order to get it to the form we are most accustomed to (the nice, pretty white stuff), it, too, is chemically treated and processed.

                            • 3 votes
                            #10.2 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:38 AM EDT
                            cookin mama

                            i use raw sugar.

                              #10.3 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:42 AM EDT
                              Dennis270

                              But many, including most commercial food and beverage producers, do not.

                              • 2 votes
                              #10.4 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:44 AM EDT
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                              Dr Know

                              Look up the Kreb's Cycle in biochemisty. Fructose bypasses a significant portion of the cycle. Glucose is the natural starting place.

                                Reply#11 - Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:10 AM EDT
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                                cookin mama

                                #12 flagged as advertising.

                                  Reply#13 - Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:08 AM EDT
                                  NB25

                                  from what i understand, corn sugar is higher in fructose therefor it absorbs into the blood stream faster and causes a quicker blood sugar spike.

                                  So even though it has the same calories, it causes more weight gain in the long run because of its effects on metabolism and blood sugar. they did studies on rats where they fed them equal caloric amounts of cane sugar and corn sugar. the corn sugar rats got fatter, even with the same calories. the body just digests it quicker, higher blood sugar spike = slower metabolism and more fat storage. its not a HUGE difference between the sugars, but there is at least a small difference that could cause more diabetes and weight issues in the long run.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#14 - Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:47 AM EDT
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