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Lots of chatter today about the new Pew Poll that shows the public's growing dissatisfaction with government. An interesting finding is that Democrats and Independents are pretty consistently skeptical of government no matter who's in the White House — but Republicans trust government far more than any other group when Republicans are in charge.
Trust in government is typically higher among members of the party that controls the White House than among members of the "out" party. However, Republicans' views of government change more dramatically, depending on which party holds power, than do Democrats'. Republicans are more trusting of government when the GOP holds power than Democrats are when the Democrats are in charge.
New Pew Poll: Republicans Only Skeptical of Government When Democrats are in Charge
Seeded on Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:23 PM EDT
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I think most of us knew this already, but it's nice having actual proof to support it.
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#1 - Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:01 PM EDTArad - "I think most of us knew this already, but it's nice having actual proof to support it."
Ok, my friend, you have seriously got to stop thinking of polls as proof of anything...
Really, do you believe that every poll is proof? I'll get you some real interesting results that other polls showed us if they are absolute proof...
Just because this one was spun towards your views does not make it proof of anything at all.
I think most of us knew this already, but it's nice having actual proof to support it.
The "Hatriots" know their time is running out. They are old and the nation's demographics are not trending their way. The young and college educated have overwhelming rejected the failures of those that call themselves "conservative".
The "Hatriots" and conservatives have no choice but to attack citizen based government. Their agenda of installing corporate rule over civil authority has been exposed.
Sure, there will be a few "bumps" along the way. The GOP will pick up seats in congress in 2010. So what... Their days are numbered. The desperation of the GOP is self evident.
-----Peace
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The "Hatriots" know their time is running out. They are old and the nation's demographics are not trending their way. The young and college educated have overwhelming rejected the failures of those that call themselves "conservative".
Another 'Viner by the name of Mego-507171 made a very astute observation in another seeded article that I think nails this. She(?) was speaking specifically about people who identify with the Tea Party, but it speaks to a certain mindset of conservatism and social orthodoxy in general:
I feel that the demographic of Americans who make up the Tea Party movement tend to middle-aged to old, and white.
In my observation, they are reactionaries. Reacting to a world where they are no longer the ones calling the shots. Where their power, influence, and prestige is rapidly dwindling. They may well reject terms like "racist", because they don't percieve themselves to be such. In the world of yesterday, the world that they firmly controlled...they weren't.
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Ok, my friend, you have seriously got to stop thinking of polls as proof of anything...
Really, do you believe that every poll is proof? I'll get you some real interesting results that other polls showed us if they are absolute proof...
Just because this one was spun towards your views does not make it proof of anything at all.
Wow GOP, those are wise words to follow. (sarc)
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It's the right wing hate radio chatter, it incites mistrust of the government. Programming the lemmings with seditious speech works well for them.
Then there is the "Hatriots". They come out of the woodwork spewing vomitious speech about how we are all about to lose our guns, freedom, bibles, and BS like that.
----Peace
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#2 - Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:40 PM EDTgaryray - "It's the right wing hate radio chatter, it incites mistrust of the government. Programming the lemmings with seditious speech works well for them."
As you spew hate you criticize right-wing radio for spewing hate?
ROFL, wow..
As you spew hate you criticize right-wing radio for spewing hate?
As much as I don't agree with GOP Rules on a lot of things, he does have a point. When you throw out terms like "Hatriots" or dismiss an entire movement as "lemmings" you defeat your point by showing you are not willing to listen to another perspective.
It's the other side of the same coin people referring to "LIE-brals" or NObama;" it polarizes sides and cheapens debate.
Let ideas stand on their own without silly insults and name calling, m'kay? :-)
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When you throw out terms like "Hatriots" or dismiss an entire movement as "lemmings" you defeat your point by showing you are not willing to listen to another perspective.
To be fair....that is a little presumptuous...don't you think. If you are referring to the "tea party" as the "entire movement". I never dismissed the entire tea party movement. Just the lemmings, and the Hatriots. It was not my intention to dismiss the entire tea party movement, and I whole heartily reject any mis-characterization of my posts to infer that I did.
I would appreciate it if you would show me the respect and common curtsy of not putting words in my mouth.
----Peace
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If the voters of this country no longer trust our government, then what would to happen come the mid term elections, if no one voted? If right, by law and by our Constitution, that position must be left vacant, for whomever would to fill in would not have been elected by the people.
The only way we can start seeing changes in our government, if we start electing far more females to the positions held by men.
#3 - Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:33 AM EDTIf the voters of this country no longer trust our government, then what would to happen come the mid term elections, if no one voted? If right, by law and by our Constitution, that position must be left vacant, for whomever would to fill in would not have been elected by the people.
Compelling thought, but the 2nd Clause of the 17th Amendment seems to state that an executive appointment can be made to fill vacancies. In the absence of voter turnout, I imagine this would be enacted:
Clause 2. When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of each State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.
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