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Andrew Wakefield found 'irresponsible' by GMC over MMR vaccine scare

Seeded on Tue Feb 2, 2010 5:13 PM EST
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health, children, medicine, disease, autism, vaccines, immunology, measles, mmr, mumps, rubella
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Andrew Wakefield, the doctor who claimed to have discovered a link between measles virus, bowel diseases and autism and thereby sparked widespread fear of the combined MMR jab, conducted unnecessary, invasive tests on children, the General Medical Council found today.

Branding him a dishonest, irresponsible doctor, the GMC disciplinary panel, which has sat and heard evidence for 148 days over two and a half years, finally found a long array of charges against him proven. But there were shouts of protest and dismay from the doctor's supporters.

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Josh of Arc

This is excellent. In light of the quantifiable damage done by the anti-vaccine movement, having one of the foundations of pseudo-science pulled out from their belief is refreshing. While I am sure this will not dissuade the true believers (e.g., the Autism One folks) who have a faithlike belief in a vaccine-disease causal relationship, hopefully this will help those wrestling with the topic to think twice.

A quote from an article on this subject that was the topic of a lot of contentious debate sums up :

Looking back over human history, rationality has been the anomaly. Being rational takes work, education, and a sober determination to avoid making hasty inferences, even when they appear to make perfect sense. Much like infectious diseases themselves — beaten back by decades of effort to vaccinate the populace — the irrational lingers just below the surface, waiting for us to let down our guard.

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Reply#1 - Tue Feb 2, 2010 5:23 PM EST
Robert-1126350

One could also state that the damage done by vaccines is quantifiable.

And exactly or generally what makes getting true informed consent of the risks and benefits and turning down a vaccine "pseudo science"?

Does real science use propaganda? The very act of deciding to use a mass vaccine strategy on a population is not a scientific decision. It is a philosophical one with ethics, morals, and personal values involved.

If vaccines were 100% effective, which they are not even close, AND 100% safe then it would be a no brainer.

But the fact that people are killed and permanently damaged from vaccines and there are people who do not benefit from them, makes this a philosophical and political discussion.

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Reply#2 - Tue Feb 2, 2010 11:03 PM EST
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